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hello and welcome to episode number 77

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of the point of convergence podcast as

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always I am your host EXO academian

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while the push towards government

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disclosure around its knowledge of UFOs

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and even its knowledge of the attempted

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reverse engineering of apparently

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recovered craft of anomalous origin

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really is kicking into a higher gear of

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late it's still a far cry from the kinds

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of matters that the people known as

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experiencers are concerned with

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experiencers those who have witnessed

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and interacted with anomalous phenomena

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personally including those who've had

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actual encounters with beings with a

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decidedly non-conventionally human

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variety are dealing with the way these

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experiences have changed them

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that is to say the question of UFOs and

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aliens is no longer an open question for

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these people

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that matter is settled while the public

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debate rages on

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what experiencers have largely moved on

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to is how to make sense of these

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experiences and how to incorporate them

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into their daily reality no small task

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when one considers just how

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life-altering such experiences can be

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one key aspect of the encounters

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experiencers report has to do with

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messages messages received from the

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beings coming from elsewhere whether one

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sees that as an extraterrestrial

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interdimensional extra-term pastoral or

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extra-dimensional in nature

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if there is one theme that arises more

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than any other in these reported

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encounters it's one dealing with

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warnings and admonitions around a

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Dawning cataclysm of some sort

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supposedly arising in the not too

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distant future of human civilization

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sometimes these warnings and admonitions

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are more symbolic in nature such as when

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contact the slash abductees are shown

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images of the Earth on fire or when for

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instance one particular person saw an

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image of what looked like the Earth as

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an organism experiencing labored

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breathing

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other times a message or vision is laid

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out more plainly when for instance giant

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waves are seen engulfing the coasts or

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when an extra planetary object is seen

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smashing into the Earth from outer space

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take it alone these messages and Visions

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are concerning enough so much so that

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some experiencers have historically

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started changing lifestyle because they

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have expected this massive shift in

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Earth Affairs to be imminent

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but the thing is the UFO phenomenon

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experiences literature is not the only

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source for these kinds of messages and

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Visions one need look no further than

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our religious history to see that

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various scriptural texts which are of

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course ultimately derived from the

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accounts of anomalous encounters from

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distant history also attest to these

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same themes both in terms of Beginnings

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such as in the Genesis account and its

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older Babylonian and Sumerian sources as

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well as in prophesied endings like what

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we find in apocalyptic literature such

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as the new testament's book of

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Revelation

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and then we have the geological and

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archaeological records that leave

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similar tantalizing Clues perhaps even

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suggesting that this notion of cataclysm

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is actually part of a recurring cycle

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perhaps even one who is repeated arising

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is coming due again soon

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is this what ancient ruins and

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whisperings of former Advanced

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civilizations like Atlantis are pointing

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many would suggest this is indeed the

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case and that the writing is on the

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proverbial wall even if that's in the

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form of ancient cave paintings

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but what are we to make of all of this

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why are human beings being shown images

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of seeming impending doom without being

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given requisite knowledge regarding how

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to avoid it and how does this repeated

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message of the need for us to raise our

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vibration quote unquote come into play

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is this about advancing our level of

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collective Consciousness so as to be

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able to avoid this apocalypse

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or is it about preparing ourselves for

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the dimensional shift that will happen

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at least potentially immediately

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afterwards

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tricky Waters to navigate to be sure but

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that's precisely what we'll attempt to

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do in this the 77th episode of the point

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[Music]

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on one of the most recent episodes of

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liminal frames I talked about how

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starkly different the conversations

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being had in nuts and bolt circles are

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from those being had amongst

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experiencers

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a major aspect of experiencer accounts

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which has seen a dramatic uptick in

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recent years and even months has to do

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with the notion of a coming cataclysm

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before we continue here though I want to

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address some people's concerns that to

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even talk about an event like a

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cataclysm unnecessarily triggers people

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and thus does more harm than good and

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should therefore be avoided altogether

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personally this is not the way I think

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about these things I think truth is our

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friend always even when it's

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inconvenient

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and because I see this lifetime as just

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one lifetime amongst many I am not

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putting all of my existential eggs in

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this one basket the basket of this

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furthermore when you consider the notion

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of pre-incarnative decisions chosen

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this lifetime that lead to the growth

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opportunity of an underlying soul to

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avoid discussion of these matters may

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very well be to miss the true point of

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the entire exercise altogether

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in other words sometimes these trigger

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warnings arise from a physicalist

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mentality in terms of this lifetime

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being all there is I reject that notion

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and I think we should therefore discuss

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these kinds of events because they

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always have underlying metaphysical

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now let's begin by talking about

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experiencer premonitions when we think

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about cataclysms that's one of the first

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things that comes to mind I personally

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hear from many friends and acquaintances

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of the experience or sort who are having

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premonitions ongoingly of various kind

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of cataclysmic events and this has seen

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an optic recently some people have

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dreams about this sometimes have daytime

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and what are the nature of these well

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sometimes they're floods sometimes they

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involve magnetic or tectonic shifts in

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the earth which as a consequence can

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now experiencers for some time now have

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felt this need to get away from the

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coast to move to Higher Ground in fact

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even when I was in New York that topic

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got raised that subject this notion that

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the coasts don't feel entirely safe

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especially in light of these dreams

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visions of impending apocalypse now it's

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important to point out that these are

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not always negative in nature these

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sense of overarching guidance in the

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midst of these coming Earth changes in

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other words while we sometimes hear

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about experiencers encountering beings

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who show them these kinds of visions of

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impending doom with the earth going

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through some sort of Destruction or

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great distress

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they're not always left with no sense of

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what the purpose is or what they can do

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about it that happens sometimes to be

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sure and sometimes there's kind of the

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sense of this vague you need to raise

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your vibration message being passed on

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and people don't really have a sense of

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what that involves

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we'll get to that shortly but I also

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experiences are shown images of

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impending doom or impending distress in

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the earth the earth civilization and

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around climate change and things like

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but again sometimes they are given

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messages and given guidance about how to

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navigate these things how to navigate

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these Waters so to speak in terms of a

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flood and we should also point out that

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it's not always a complete cataclysm in

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terms of the end of our civilization

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there's a bit of variance there

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sometimes it's a massive uh event we

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have to go through but it's something we

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can survive and see on the other side

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other times it more is like a

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civilization or greatly civilization

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now in an earlier podcast on this point

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of conversion podcast I talked about the

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case of Susie Hansen now she is your

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typical situation where she initially

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had a shocking event where she was

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abducted with a friend right from their

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car up into a craft the entire car was

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taken up and at first she had that kind

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of shocking feeling of what's happening

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and it was terrifying but to her

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surprise she later realized she

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recognized the beings on the craft and

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that she had had long-term associations

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with him in fact she had memory of being

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with them before this lifetime and again

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we have to keep this big picture in mind

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whenever we're talking about these

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now in her book The Dual Soul connection

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Susie Hansen talks about basically being

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given Decades of training by these

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Graves by these non-human others in

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preparation not just for the next life

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but also in preparation for something

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that's going to happen during this

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lifetime in the world and I now want to

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quote from the book this is the Dual

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Soul connection which is subtitled the

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alien agenda for human advancement quote

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in February 2010 I retained memory of

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attending a somewhat disturbing meeting

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with hundreds of other people in an

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underground facility unquote

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now that sets the stage in terms of

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where she was when this event is about

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to take place and I want to jump forward

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in the book when she talks about what

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she was actually exposed to what

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actually happened while she was in that

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underground facility basically ready to

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take part in a training

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gonna jump ahead now to when she was

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seeing images of Apocalypse cataclysm

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along with other human beings who were

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in the facility for the training

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quote images began flashing on the

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screen initially one every few seconds

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or so however as our concentration was

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established and maintained this then

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increased to one image roughly every

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we are registering them all but we

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cannot dwell in any particular one

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because of the terrific speed it makes

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my eyes jerk and water

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oh they are tragic images tragic images

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and then in Brackets we see that she was

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crying and deeply disturbed by the

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images when she was talking about this

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I see speaking altogether and my entire

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body shook as if in a state of sudden

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therapist I hyperventilated and my teeth

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hammered together loudly for a full two

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and a half minutes as I relive the

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intensity of hundreds of futuristic

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images they depicted shocking natural

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disasters on our planet extremes of

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weather internal and internation Wars

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and Chaos in societies all involving

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massive loss of life and suffering a

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stream of tragedy sending a bolt of

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Terror through us all

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everyone was shaken but our eyes

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remained fixed and riveted to the screen

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with tears streaming down our faces is

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all within the space of a couple of

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minutes we were given a dire Insight a

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warning of events to come on our planet

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then equally as quickly the atmosphere

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switched as the images ended

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and then she says to the regressionist

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um we are calming down now he has

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cleared it away who has cleared away

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that's why this particular mantis entity

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is here he's the one showing them he's

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got some extraordinary ability and I

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know it's coming from him the entity

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sent out a telepathic blanket of calm

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that descended over us all

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instantaneously soothing our jangled

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emotions with his mind as the shock

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dissipated and we felt composed again

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the understanding of what we had seen

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was still in our minds but because of

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his influence we could now think about

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the implications calmly and clinically

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and put emotions aside unquote

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again she's talking about the mantis

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being was able to send this calm to them

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all that we're witnessing these events

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these premonitions of what was going to

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happen to the Earth

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now we're going to jump to a section now

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where another human being is now

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explaining to them what's going to

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happen and what it all means when we say

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human here again just to remind you this

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doesn't necessarily mean Earth human

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there are plenty of times where human

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looking entities are encountered but

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they're not actually Earth humans but

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carrying on again from the book quote

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the human explained the futuristic

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images of Earth changes Wars and

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societal upheaval were events that will

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occur however the timing intensity and

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duration may vary according to Mankind's

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decisions in the interim in other words

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our Mass Consciousness and actions play

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a part in creating our Collective future

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tragic events sometimes promote growth

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and change he went on to say that as

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people who have been trained by the

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Grays we were now being asked to take on

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a different role

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that of tutoring for them this was

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conveyed as a request but at the same

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time there was a subtle element of

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requiring us to do this we understood it

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as not a threat or an imposition but

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rather an expectation of commitment and

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having seen tragic future portends

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affecting our civilization our very

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consciences required us to cooperate

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unquote

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so just to quickly summarize what we

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just read basically over time Susie

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Hansen along with other humans have been

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initially abducted but then they realize

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it's not a negative thing it's more like

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a contact and it's connected to a

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pre-incarnated decision they made along

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with these others and she was sort of

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waking up to her other aspect of herself

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when she was on board craft and in the

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presence of these others and that's

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indeed was she calls this book The Dual

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Soul connection because she's part gray

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part human but sometimes the gray

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identity doesn't come online until she's

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with them

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but either way the notion here is that

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different humans are being prepared as

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ambassadors if you will to help other

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humans when these cataclysms do occur

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when these events that are apocalyptic

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in nature do arise I also want to point

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out there that she was told along with

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others that the exact timing was

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somewhat up in the air and that's a

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major theme that I've come across time

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and time again even in the raw material

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that we will discuss later which I

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personally think is the best channeled

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material we've ever received from an

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extra human Source they talk about that

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as well that because our Free Will human

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Free Will and there being billions of us

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that the exact timing is partly

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dependent on the decisions we make the

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actions we take in the coming years and

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so because there's this recognition and

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this valuing of free will it's the

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intermix of all those things the

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collective Consciousness on the earth

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together along with these things that

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were planned beforehand which we'll get

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to which ultimately determine the timing

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so that is to say even some of these

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others don't know the exact timing but

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they do have a sense of the general

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thrust of what is to come

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so before we move on to the next section

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I want to again just highlight two

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important things here number one the

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sense of a coming cataclysm is a major

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part of experiencer accounts that this

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is very often Central to these

409
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situations even the kids in Zimbabwe

410
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were shown images telepathically told

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things that made them worry about

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Earth's future and they were told that

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you need to change course basically so

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that's a key aspect of what goes on in

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these situations

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but whereas those kids were not given

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really the tools to know what to do to

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prevent these things there were other

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cases like here with Susie Hansen where

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she and others are actually being

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trained specifically about how to help

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when these events eventually do arise

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okay and that has to do with the

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experience for accounts dealing with ETS

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extraterrestrials which is how these

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others identify themselves here

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but the question is is it only in these

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kind of experiencer accounts to do with

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ETS or interdimensionals that we hear

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about this notion of a coming cataclysm

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well as it turns out no that's not the

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only place we hear about these things

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this is not the only source I mentioned

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that in the introduction there's

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numerous other places other kinds of

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sources that also Point towards this

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sense of a coming cataclysm that this is

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part of human history and perhaps it's

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even been cyclical in nature that this

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would not be the first time this has

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happened that in fact maybe there have

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been different civilizations on the

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earth perhaps even previous

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sophisticated civilizations like

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Atlantis like we talked about that have

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since gone by the wayside and it's kind

447
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of our hubris that leads us to believe

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we're the first ones here

449
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but what are some of these other sources

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well we need to look next to the extra

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tempestriles those of you tuning into

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this podcast for a long time you'll

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remember that I dedicated three episodes

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to the notion of some groups of the

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graves actually being us from the future

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or what Michael Masters calls extra

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tempestules who are here now partly in

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relation to the notion of a coming

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cataclysm now one group apparently is

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for this cataclysm they are here to try

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and ensure it does happen whereas

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another faction another group of future

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humans is here to try to help us prevent

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it from happening in terms of choosing

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one timeline over another based on our

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actions

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now the sense is that this is imminent

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within a decade or less I would

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generally say and intelligence groups

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were trying to keep this under wraps

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according to what I discussed in those

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three episodes for fear that public

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knowledge alone could change the

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timeline and in a way that would not be

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good

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now interestingly former CIA analyst

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John Ramirez has spoken to the notion

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that for quite some time now there has

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been knowledge within various

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intelligent circles that some kind of

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major event is coming

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in fact he suggested the change in tone

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that happened around 2017 around the

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time of the publication of those famous

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New York Times articles

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was the kickoff to a 10-year preparation

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for a major public reveal of some kind

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in other words something that's coming

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online around 2027. now importantly this

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reveal seems not to be about a cataclysm

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directly but something else one wonders

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could this Revelation be in relation to

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the presence of these extra tempestules

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or extraterrestrials which in the long

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run is related to this coming cataclysm

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in other words is 2027 the time where

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they will reveal themselves in a vast

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public way and then join forces with us

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to perhaps prepare for or prevent this

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cataclysm again I think it's an open

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question of what's actually on the table

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here and I'll leave that up to you to

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decide but I just want to discuss some

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of the details that often come up

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now Ramirez also stressed the idea and

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I've heard this personally from other

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credible sources as well that part of

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the reason for the cover-up of the

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Roswell event was because the beings

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recovered from the craft showed signs of

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having a genetic Heritage in common with

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us so here again interesting

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possibilities arise could these have

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been the initial extra-term pastoral

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voyages if you will going back in time

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and coming into our timeline and things

517
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going wrong that's possible perhaps they

518
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weren't ETS perhaps they were extra

519
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tempestules future humans or could this

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hint to our distant history being one

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that was connected to an

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extraterrestrial intelligence who seated

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Us in other words was the fact that they

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shared a genetic lineage with us to do

525
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with the fact that they seated us so

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they weren't necessarily us from the

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future but ETS who have a common genetic

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linkage with us and this was the notion

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that would have been shocking to the

530
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public and this supposedly was a big

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reason why the cover-up was so massive

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and so dedicated so that's two sources

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so far we've had the Extraterrestrial or

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interdimensional encounters with

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experiencers and warnings about a coming

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cataclysm and then sometimes some

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training and some preparation for this

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like in the case of Susie Hansen we've

539
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also had the notion of extra tempestules

540
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and supposedly intelligent sources that

541
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have been in contact with these extra

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tempestules around a coming cataclysm

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and these future humans are the ones

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that arise after this cataclysm and

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that's partly why they look the way they

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do

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Etc

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but now let's move on to another source

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that also touches on this notion of a

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coming cataclysm religion now a major

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long-term aspect of various religious

552
00:20:59,450 --> 00:20:56,760
Traditions involves this notion of a

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future apocalypse the so-called end

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00:21:05,029 --> 00:21:02,039
times followed by a new peaceful order

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on what is termed a new Heaven and a new

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Earth

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now many people often interpret that in

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00:21:13,549 --> 00:21:10,679
biblical circles in Christian circles as

559
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:13,559
literally a new planet but it perhaps is

560
00:21:18,409 --> 00:21:16,080
more like either a renewed planet or a

561
00:21:20,570 --> 00:21:18,419
dimensionally shifted Planet like what

562
00:21:21,770 --> 00:21:20,580
you learn about in the raw material and

563
00:21:24,169 --> 00:21:21,780
this is again what's so interesting

564
00:21:26,210 --> 00:21:24,179
we'll get to that in a moment Notions

565
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:26,220
like the raw material channeled material

566
00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:28,559
from extraterrestrial extra-dimensional

567
00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:31,200
beings has a lot of similar themes as

568
00:21:36,350 --> 00:21:33,480
what we find in ancient religion even

569
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,360
this notion of a new Earth

570
00:21:40,430 --> 00:21:38,159
now here we should pause to point out

571
00:21:42,350 --> 00:21:40,440
that plenty of people have suggested in

572
00:21:43,730 --> 00:21:42,360
regards to religion and evidence

573
00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:43,740
certainly seems to point in this

574
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:45,780
direction that the intelligence is

575
00:21:50,090 --> 00:21:47,760
influencing the seating of those early

576
00:21:52,970 --> 00:21:50,100
religious Traditions that later became

577
00:21:55,490 --> 00:21:52,980
dogmatic traditions where the very same

578
00:21:58,370 --> 00:21:55,500
intelligences behind contact encounters

579
00:22:00,590 --> 00:21:58,380
via the more modern UFO phenomenon

580
00:22:02,510 --> 00:22:00,600
literature in our time

581
00:22:04,909 --> 00:22:02,520
Dennis just say you could argue that

582
00:22:06,830 --> 00:22:04,919
this message from these same groups of

583
00:22:09,230 --> 00:22:06,840
beings has been part of the picture for

584
00:22:11,450 --> 00:22:09,240
us as long as we've been interacting

585
00:22:13,250 --> 00:22:11,460
with them which you could argue was

586
00:22:15,710 --> 00:22:13,260
around the time of the seeding of our

587
00:22:18,350 --> 00:22:15,720
civilization on or at least since our

588
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,360
most recent genetic tweaks that made us

589
00:22:23,210 --> 00:22:20,400
capable of more advanced abstract

590
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:23,220
thought and communication with them

591
00:22:28,010 --> 00:22:25,919
now earlier I mentioned John Ramirez as

592
00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:28,020
a former CIA analyst saying that there

593
00:22:32,990 --> 00:22:30,360
was knowledge within the CIA and other

594
00:22:36,409 --> 00:22:33,000
intelligence circles about events in the

595
00:22:38,570 --> 00:22:36,419
future things like a major event in 2027

596
00:22:40,490 --> 00:22:38,580
and perhaps that has to do with a major

597
00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:40,500
reveal of some kind

598
00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:42,480
in terms of these others making their

599
00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:44,460
presence known on a wide public level

600
00:22:49,370 --> 00:22:47,460
and that's perhaps why we see a shift in

601
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:49,380
approach now by the government because

602
00:22:53,090 --> 00:22:51,120
they're preparing for this and again

603
00:22:56,450 --> 00:22:53,100
perhaps this change in Focus began

604
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:56,460
around 2017 in terms of a 10-year run-up

605
00:23:02,690 --> 00:22:58,799
to this reveal

606
00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:02,700
but the CIA also has had hints inklings

607
00:23:07,549 --> 00:23:04,980
of a common cataclysm You could argue

608
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:07,559
there's the famous case of a book called

609
00:23:13,310 --> 00:23:10,559
The Adam and Eve story which supposedly

610
00:23:15,470 --> 00:23:13,320
was at one point held back by the CIA

611
00:23:18,110 --> 00:23:15,480
that they actually classified aspects of

612
00:23:19,789 --> 00:23:18,120
this and supposedly even today why you

613
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:19,799
can get a copy of this book on Amazon

614
00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:23,039
for instance supposedly aspects of it

615
00:23:27,230 --> 00:23:25,500
are still redacted and you'd ask

616
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,240
yourself why would this be the case this

617
00:23:30,890 --> 00:23:29,280
is a book that someone wrote kind of

618
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:30,900
just an average person not well known

619
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:33,600
who wrote a book about cataclysms and

620
00:23:37,789 --> 00:23:35,280
even how biblical Traditions were

621
00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:37,799
actually referencing cyclical cataclysms

622
00:23:40,850 --> 00:23:39,900
rather than the beginning of time so to

623
00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:40,860
speak

624
00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:43,020
now what's discussed in this book is the

625
00:23:47,870 --> 00:23:45,059
possibility that a magnetic pole shift

626
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:47,880
of a massive variety would be the

627
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:50,400
impetus for a cataclysmic event that

628
00:23:54,169 --> 00:23:52,559
basically destroys everything or resets

629
00:23:55,549 --> 00:23:54,179
human civilization

630
00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:55,559
and again as I already talked about

631
00:23:59,930 --> 00:23:57,780
there's also a different take on the

632
00:24:01,789 --> 00:23:59,940
Genesis story in this book suggesting

633
00:24:03,289 --> 00:24:01,799
that what was actually depicted or

634
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:03,299
interpreted as the beginning of the

635
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:05,520
world was actually just the beginning of

636
00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:08,400
the most recent reset prior to our time

637
00:24:13,490 --> 00:24:11,220
following the last cataclysm and again

638
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,500
the notion here is that we're coming due

639
00:24:19,070 --> 00:24:15,840
for this cyclical cataclysm yet again

640
00:24:21,529 --> 00:24:19,080
and perhaps people suggest that this is

641
00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:21,539
something the CIA knows about and this

642
00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:23,640
is why this book was initially

643
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:25,860
classified and then later published but

644
00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:28,799
only with a redacted version available

645
00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:31,080
now in terms of additional potentially

646
00:24:36,049 --> 00:24:34,200
corroborating evidence in this regard I

647
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:36,059
remember Linda Moulton Howe talked about

648
00:24:41,810 --> 00:24:38,640
being contacted by someone supposedly in

649
00:24:45,409 --> 00:24:41,820
intelligent circles back around 2013 or

650
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:45,419
so I believe and he said that the CIA or

651
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:47,700
intelligence groups anyway were in

652
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:49,919
knowledge of a coming cataclysm of some

653
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,520
sort in the 2020s and that interestingly

654
00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:55,440
this lines up with what we've been

655
00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:57,000
talking about here in terms of these

656
00:25:00,890 --> 00:24:58,740
extra tempestules and what they're

657
00:25:03,230 --> 00:25:00,900
saying in terms of what experiencers are

658
00:25:05,930 --> 00:25:03,240
hearing even people like Chris Bledsoe

659
00:25:08,570 --> 00:25:05,940
have heard this timelines in the 2020s

660
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:08,580
going into the 2030s this is a repeating

661
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,559
theme quite often

662
00:25:14,690 --> 00:25:12,240
and by the way I'd like to point out

663
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:14,700
that to Linda moultonhouse credit she

664
00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:17,159
suggested that if indeed we are the

665
00:25:21,529 --> 00:25:19,140
people that are here during this massive

666
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,539
cataclysmic event that perhaps we

667
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,760
planned this that we actually meant to

668
00:25:27,769 --> 00:25:25,440
be part of this reset that it's part of

669
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:27,779
what we planned in terms of our sole

670
00:25:32,029 --> 00:25:30,000
Evolution that we're not just victims of

671
00:25:33,529 --> 00:25:32,039
circumstance and I think that's actually

672
00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:33,539
a really important way to look at this

673
00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:35,880
and I think there's much truth there and

674
00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:38,460
we'll touch on that a little bit later

675
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,260
now in terms of other potentially

676
00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:42,480
corroborating sources that go beyond the

677
00:25:47,450 --> 00:25:44,940
UFO phenomenon I also mentioned Heather

678
00:25:50,269 --> 00:25:47,460
a hints in the geological record and in

679
00:25:51,649 --> 00:25:50,279
the archaeological record now often the

680
00:25:53,810 --> 00:25:51,659
mainstream doesn't want to talk about

681
00:25:55,730 --> 00:25:53,820
this the archaeological mainstream but

682
00:25:58,970 --> 00:25:55,740
Graham Hancock has done a lot of great

683
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,980
work looking into ancient apocalypses in

684
00:26:03,169 --> 00:26:00,480
fact he has a new series on Netflix

685
00:26:05,409 --> 00:26:03,179
called that ancient apocalypse and he

686
00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:05,419
looks at evidence that previous

687
00:26:11,149 --> 00:26:08,460
sophisticated civilizations lived on the

688
00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:11,159
earth much earlier than the conventional

689
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:12,539
mainstream is willing to acknowledge

690
00:26:17,870 --> 00:26:15,120
perhaps tens of thousands of years and

691
00:26:19,789 --> 00:26:17,880
he sees this record suggesting that

692
00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:19,799
perhaps these cataclysms happen

693
00:26:24,289 --> 00:26:21,900
somewhere between every 10 to 12 000

694
00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:24,299
years and based on when the last one was

695
00:26:28,970 --> 00:26:26,340
again that would suggest that we're

696
00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:28,980
coming due for this again soon so yet

697
00:26:33,649 --> 00:26:31,260
again we have another piece of evidence

698
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,659
potentially suggesting this is the case

699
00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:36,240
lining up in terms of timelines

700
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:38,940
And in regards to Hancock I mentioned

701
00:26:43,690 --> 00:26:41,760
how he's been frustrated by the

702
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:43,700
mainstream and how they often tried to

703
00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:46,080
minimize his work and basically try to

704
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,700
prevent people from being aware of his

705
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:49,679
work and this is something that Graham

706
00:26:54,409 --> 00:26:52,080
Hancock recently said in this Regard in

707
00:26:56,990 --> 00:26:54,419
terms of the conventional archaeological

708
00:27:00,110 --> 00:26:57,000
mainstream trying to censor his new

709
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:00,120
series on Netflix he said quote the

710
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,400
society for American archeology issues

711
00:27:06,769 --> 00:27:04,559
an open letter calling for censorship of

712
00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:06,779
my Netflix docu-series ancient

713
00:27:10,850 --> 00:27:08,940
apocalypse but when asked to

714
00:27:13,310 --> 00:27:10,860
substantiate the claims made in the

715
00:27:14,510 --> 00:27:13,320
letter has quote unquote No Further

716
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,520
comment

717
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,799
so Hancock's frustration there and I

718
00:27:21,409 --> 00:27:18,480
tend to agree with him is that rather

719
00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:21,419
than presenting an argument why this

720
00:27:26,090 --> 00:27:23,700
series should be censored they're merely

721
00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:26,100
relying on their badges so to speak the

722
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:27,480
fact that they are the archaeological

723
00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:29,700
mainstream and saying we're telling you

724
00:27:34,370 --> 00:27:32,100
this should be censors to just do it

725
00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:34,380
now what a lot of this comes down to is

726
00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:36,299
the sense that the only reason why

727
00:27:40,430 --> 00:27:37,860
there's this really clear sense of what

728
00:27:42,289 --> 00:27:40,440
happened in deep human history is that

729
00:27:44,450 --> 00:27:42,299
there's this consensus that's just been

730
00:27:46,730 --> 00:27:44,460
put forward as Truth by the

731
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,740
archaeological mainstream but at best

732
00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:48,720
this is a soft science and you could

733
00:27:52,669 --> 00:27:50,460
even argue it's a pseudoscience there's

734
00:27:56,029 --> 00:27:52,679
a lot of subjective interpretation here

735
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:56,039
a lot of assumption and what Hancock is

736
00:27:59,210 --> 00:27:57,360
really doing is coming with some

737
00:28:01,310 --> 00:27:59,220
different possibilities who's saying

738
00:28:02,570 --> 00:28:01,320
when we look at the evidence is there

739
00:28:04,490 --> 00:28:02,580
different possibilities that could

740
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:04,500
present themselves here suggesting

741
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,000
perhaps there were previous

742
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:08,159
sophisticated civilizations that were

743
00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:10,080
not the first Kids on the Block so to

744
00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:12,659
speak and rather than fighting that with

745
00:28:16,669 --> 00:28:14,760
evidence backing up their claims that

746
00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:16,679
they should be censored they merely say

747
00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:17,940
listen where the archaeological

748
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:19,620
mainstream you know what we're talking

749
00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:22,320
about so just do it so I really think

750
00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:25,140
Hancock has a good point here and 2R

751
00:28:29,630 --> 00:28:27,720
aimed today to talk about this notion of

752
00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:29,640
a cataclysm and perhaps even a cyclical

753
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:31,980
cataclysm that is perhaps coming to A

754
00:28:36,409 --> 00:28:35,039
again soon again I think Hancock's done

755
00:28:37,970 --> 00:28:36,419
some great work looking at

756
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,980
archaeological digs and whatnot

757
00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:39,840
suggesting that this has happened before

758
00:28:44,029 --> 00:28:41,880
and that based on the intervals in

759
00:28:46,610 --> 00:28:44,039
history it could very well be happening

760
00:28:48,289 --> 00:28:46,620
again soon

761
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:48,299
and now I'd like to discuss what's known

762
00:28:52,850 --> 00:28:50,460
as the raw material or the raw contact

763
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:52,860
material now first of all I just want to

764
00:28:56,810 --> 00:28:55,140
say I think this is great material I

765
00:28:59,630 --> 00:28:56,820
mentioned this on the most recent

766
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,640
episode of liminal frames really I think

767
00:29:03,710 --> 00:29:01,679
this is the best Channel material we've

768
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,720
ever come across I really am

769
00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:05,279
appreciative of the three people that

770
00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:07,080
were involved in this channel material

771
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:10,380
in the early 1980s and I find that the

772
00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:12,960
messages provided seem very legitimate

773
00:29:16,370 --> 00:29:14,700
to me they also line up with deep

774
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,380
spiritual principles from Eastern

775
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,960
tradition and non-duality which I feel

776
00:29:22,850 --> 00:29:20,880
has been revealed to me as Central to

777
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:22,860
reality and I'm certainly not the only

778
00:29:27,409 --> 00:29:25,260
one again there's a lot of common ground

779
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:27,419
there so yeah just as an aside if you've

780
00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:29,039
not read the raw material I highly

781
00:29:33,049 --> 00:29:31,020
suggest you do it's pretty dense

782
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:33,059
material but the underlying nuggets of

783
00:29:37,730 --> 00:29:35,940
Truth are pure gold and I will do a deep

784
00:29:39,169 --> 00:29:37,740
dive into the raw material at some time

785
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,179
in the future

786
00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:41,039
now this is what I want to say about the

787
00:29:44,510 --> 00:29:42,360
raw material

788
00:29:46,669 --> 00:29:44,520
one key question that often goes

789
00:29:48,649 --> 00:29:46,679
overlooked in this matter of cataclysms

790
00:29:51,049 --> 00:29:48,659
and even more so in terms of cyclical

791
00:29:53,149 --> 00:29:51,059
cataclysms is whether these are merely

792
00:29:55,549 --> 00:29:53,159
natural events that follow the orbital

793
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,559
patterns of objects in space or the

794
00:29:59,570 --> 00:29:58,080
magnetic meanderings of our planet or is

795
00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:59,580
it that they are connected to the

796
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:01,919
seating or resetting of the planet by

797
00:30:06,169 --> 00:30:04,260
some overarching intelligence who

798
00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:06,179
perhaps uses these events as the

799
00:30:11,149 --> 00:30:08,820
mechanism by which Consciousness is

800
00:30:12,830 --> 00:30:11,159
reset so the focus here is on

801
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:12,840
Consciousness not on these physical

802
00:30:17,570 --> 00:30:15,120
events that these are just a mechanism

803
00:30:19,850 --> 00:30:17,580
or the surface layer of what is actually

804
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:19,860
a move in Consciousness I think this is

805
00:30:24,409 --> 00:30:22,559
key I keep returning to this and the raw

806
00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:24,419
material makes this front and center

807
00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:27,419
really important and in that regard I

808
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:28,860
think it's important to point out that

809
00:30:33,169 --> 00:30:31,200
according to the raw material when these

810
00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:33,179
cataclysmic events do happen when these

811
00:30:37,789 --> 00:30:35,580
resetting events do happen it's not like

812
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,799
everything just returns to zero that

813
00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:39,360
according to the physicalist model for

814
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,740
instance when you're dead you're dead

815
00:30:45,470 --> 00:30:42,960
that's not the case that even even if

816
00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:45,480
the beings on the planet go through one

817
00:30:49,370 --> 00:30:47,100
of these cataclysms again let's

818
00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:49,380
underlyingly the case is it a

819
00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:51,539
metaphysical reset is happening or a

820
00:30:55,610 --> 00:30:53,220
metaphysical shift is perhaps a better

821
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:55,620
way to describe it and the reset is just

822
00:30:59,570 --> 00:30:57,240
what it looks like on the physical level

823
00:31:02,029 --> 00:30:59,580
and what that means is according to the

824
00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:02,039
raw material depending on the level of

825
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:03,720
consciousness of the various people on

826
00:31:08,810 --> 00:31:06,480
the planet they will be repopulated or

827
00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:08,820
reincarnated elsewhere perhaps on the

828
00:31:12,830 --> 00:31:10,679
planet if they're ready when the planet

829
00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:12,840
goes to 4D which is the actual

830
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:14,340
expectation according to the raw

831
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:16,140
material that again the entire planet

832
00:31:21,529 --> 00:31:18,720
goes to this dimensional shift and those

833
00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:21,539
who are ready go along with it others

834
00:31:25,490 --> 00:31:23,520
are repopulated elsewhere perhaps on

835
00:31:27,289 --> 00:31:25,500
other planets that are at a sort of 3D

836
00:31:30,049 --> 00:31:27,299
stage so you have this entire

837
00:31:32,750 --> 00:31:30,059
metaphysical architecture you could call

838
00:31:34,610 --> 00:31:32,760
it that underlies these physical events

839
00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:34,620
that are really only part of the story

840
00:31:39,289 --> 00:31:37,140
and you really misunderstand the main

841
00:31:41,389 --> 00:31:39,299
thrust of the story if you only pay

842
00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:41,399
attention to them which again is one of

843
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:43,140
the implications versions of a

844
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:44,880
physicalist mindset and I'm suggesting

845
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:46,980
we get beyond that and we can look at

846
00:31:51,649 --> 00:31:48,960
something like a cataclysm and not look

847
00:31:53,630 --> 00:31:51,659
at it with fear and trembling and dismay

848
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,640
because there's deeper things deeper

849
00:31:58,010 --> 00:31:55,679
moves in Consciousness going on

850
00:31:59,690 --> 00:31:58,020
underlyingly

851
00:32:01,549 --> 00:31:59,700
and now I'd like to leave you with a few

852
00:32:03,769 --> 00:32:01,559
concluding thoughts

853
00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:03,779
when we reflect on this notion of the

854
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,059
possibility of a coming cataclysm it's

855
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:08,399
important to keep a few things in mind

856
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,279
number one achieving Clarity on exactly

857
00:32:15,769 --> 00:32:13,440
when this is going to happen if indeed

858
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:15,779
it is going to take place is a tricky

859
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:18,000
Endeavor not the least of which is

860
00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:20,159
because as I already stated numerous

861
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:22,020
variables seem to be contributing to

862
00:32:27,049 --> 00:32:24,480
this so becoming too focused on this

863
00:32:28,850 --> 00:32:27,059
particular matter of when exactly this

864
00:32:30,529 --> 00:32:28,860
is going to happen is perhaps

865
00:32:33,289 --> 00:32:30,539
ill-advised

866
00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:33,299
number two according to much of the

867
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,340
relevant experience for literature the

868
00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:37,200
overarching spiritual principles that

869
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,480
underlie this event are more important

870
00:32:43,789 --> 00:32:41,760
than the event itself and these

871
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:43,799
principles speak to Natural dimensional

872
00:32:47,330 --> 00:32:45,720
progressions that are part of the

873
00:32:49,250 --> 00:32:47,340
overarching plan

874
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,260
in other words there are metaphysical

875
00:32:53,630 --> 00:32:51,360
principles seeking for the greater good

876
00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:53,640
that underlie any surface layer

877
00:32:58,430 --> 00:32:55,980
manifestation even surface layer

878
00:33:00,049 --> 00:32:58,440
manifestations that look negative by

879
00:33:02,990 --> 00:33:00,059
themselves

880
00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:03,000
number three even if these events are

881
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:05,340
inevitable and even Skeptics to all of

882
00:33:09,649 --> 00:33:07,320
these matters will acknowledge that some

883
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:09,659
kind of Earth or Cosmic cataclysm is

884
00:33:14,509 --> 00:33:12,000
indeed going to happen eventually it's

885
00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:14,519
just a matter of when not if we still

886
00:33:19,130 --> 00:33:16,260
have a key role to play in what

887
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:19,140
ultimately happens to us based on our

888
00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:21,360
response to it our level of

889
00:33:26,269 --> 00:33:23,580
Consciousness both individually and

890
00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:26,279
collectively will play a role in quote

891
00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:28,740
unquote what comes next

892
00:33:33,950 --> 00:33:32,220
finally speaking of what comes next we

893
00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:33,960
should keep in mind amidst all of these

894
00:33:37,850 --> 00:33:36,120
matters that ultimately the spiritual

895
00:33:39,889 --> 00:33:37,860
principles outlined in the best

896
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:39,899
experience for literature not to mention

897
00:33:44,509 --> 00:33:42,000
in the non-dual teachings of the world's

898
00:33:47,090 --> 00:33:44,519
deepest spiritual Traditions all point

899
00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:47,100
to the fact that ultimately we are

900
00:33:51,769 --> 00:33:49,080
Eternal beings experiencing a long line

901
00:33:54,049 --> 00:33:51,779
of temporary manifestations like this

902
00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:54,059
present Earthling one on our path

903
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,279
towards ultimate Transcendence and

904
00:34:00,830 --> 00:33:58,559
reunion with Cosmic source

905
00:34:02,889 --> 00:34:00,840
and in that sense there really is

906
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:02,899
nothing to fear from these local

907
00:34:07,789 --> 00:34:05,880
cataclysms they can do nothing to Rob us

908
00:34:10,070 --> 00:34:07,799
of what really matters for the

909
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,080
metaphysical reality that undergirds the

910
00:34:14,750 --> 00:34:12,240
somewhat illusory nature of this

911
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:14,760
space-time construct can never be

912
00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:17,520
destroyed for it was never created it

913
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,460
just is and that being the case what

914
00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:22,800
this really comes down to is a question

915
00:34:27,290 --> 00:34:25,560
around how we respond to this and any

916
00:34:29,149 --> 00:34:27,300
other challenges or what the raw

917
00:34:31,129 --> 00:34:29,159
material would call Catalyst the

918
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:31,139
resistance we train against in the

919
00:34:35,149 --> 00:34:33,119
growing of our individual souls and our

920
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:35,159
shared Collective Consciousness that

921
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:36,780
come our way

922
00:34:41,210 --> 00:34:39,419
a key element in finding peace with

923
00:34:42,829 --> 00:34:41,220
these and any other matters that are

924
00:34:45,409 --> 00:34:42,839
concerning within this particular

925
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:45,419
manifestation is to learn to toggle

926
00:34:50,270 --> 00:34:47,820
between the relative and absolute

927
00:34:52,730 --> 00:34:50,280
aspects of reality

928
00:34:54,290 --> 00:34:52,740
by keeping in mind the absolute the

929
00:34:56,109 --> 00:34:54,300
aspects that are Eternal and

930
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,119
indestructible and ultimately

931
00:35:01,010 --> 00:34:58,800
indivisible were able to not only

932
00:35:03,650 --> 00:35:01,020
navigate the relative aspects that make

933
00:35:06,109 --> 00:35:03,660
up our local space-time experience with

934
00:35:07,790 --> 00:35:06,119
Grace and strength but also with this

935
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:07,800
overarching knowledge that whatever

936
00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:09,839
lessons we learn in these temporary

937
00:35:14,930 --> 00:35:12,540
manifestations are the very lessons that

938
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:14,940
we get to take with us in terms of the

939
00:35:20,089 --> 00:35:17,160
deep abiding wisdom that is passed on

940
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:20,099
from one lifetime to the next and also

941
00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:23,040
contribute back to Cosmic source as part

942
00:35:29,870 --> 00:35:25,380
of the overarching evolution of the

943
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:32,390
and on that note we've come to the close

944
00:35:37,069 --> 00:35:34,740
of another edition of the point of

945
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,079
convergence podcast if you'd like to

946
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:39,119
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947
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948
00:35:47,870 --> 00:35:45,900
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949
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:47,880
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